004 What’s In The Bag? Because Jesus Said Whoever Has A Purse Must Take It.

What’s In The Bag?

Because Jesus Said, “Whoever Has a Purse Must Take It”

Luke [22:36] He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack.”

Join Sandy and Elisabeth as they talk about what they carry in their bags and what Jesus says about the most important thing you can take with you.

LUKE [12:33]-35 Make for yourselves purses that will not wear out for the treasure in heaven never runs out, the thieves never steal and the moths never destroy. Your heart will be where your treasure is. Be dressed and ready for service.

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Smooth talk and fine words.

I won’t make a habit out of sharing other people’s thoughts, but in this case, I feel like it’s important to point out that there are actual living, breathing humans who think like this and preach this to other people. Not only are there a couple hundred people who have taken the time out of their day to like, and love, and comment on this post in particular, but there are another 80,000 who follow this page.

It is very easy to edit words to make it say what you think it should say. Unfortunately, we see that all too often with Proverbs 31, and we also see this passage held up as the gold standard for all women when there is no indication in Scripture that it was meant to be used in that way. There are 1,189 chapters of the Bible and yet we are to believe that there is only one that teaches women how to be a good wife?

For example, verse 28 says: Her husband and children praise her. Without any other context it makes it sound like she never leaves the home but in verse 31 it says: she was praised in public for what she has done, so obviously the whole city knew of her work.

In verse 20 it says: she helps the poor and needy so we could infer that women could work for charitable causes only but just before that in verse 18 it says: she knows her trading is profitable, so we know that she makes money.

We could say that in verse 16 when: she inspects the field and buys it, that maybe that’s only because her husband instructed her to, except the very next thing it says in verse 17 is that: with money, she earned she plants a vineyard, so again she’s making money.

We see in verse 26: she watches over her family, so again she must be at home, except that in verse 24 it also says: she sells her garments at the market, so obviously she is away from the home. And before you say well she doesn’t have a full time job because she just goes to market occasionally to sell things she made in her home let’s just wander back up to verses 13 and 14 where she: goes out to find wool and flax…she is like a merchants ship bringing food from afar, so she is obviously traveling to source material before spinning her own thread, weaving her own cloth, making her own bedding and fine clothes and clothes for the local merchants before also surveying property, planting a vineyard, helping the needy and receiving her praises at the city gates. (You know, just your typical Etsy mom.)

The truth lies in between the two extremes. There are absolutely women who are called to be in their homes and there are absolutely women who are called to serve outside the home. See, the problem here is not with the Scripture, but that there are thousands of people who are willing to completely twist, edit and manipulate God’s word to push their own agenda, and thousands and thousands of others are hurt by this perversion of Scripture every day.

More and more women are propping up Proverbs 31 without digging into the historical context or even acknowledging all the attributes of the character of this woman, and certainly without looking at any other examples of women in the Bible.

They show no love or compassion or empathy for those who have been harmed by the church, and while we rejoice that not everyone has been hurt by the Proverbs 31 rhetoric, we must recognize, acknowledge and grieve with those who have.

It is not God’s design to hold women to an unrealistic Stepford Wife standard of Biblical Womanhood. Instead, we must look to ALL of God’s word (both inside Proverbs 31 and outside of it *gasp) to inspire our character. We must celebrate the beauty and the diversity of God’s creation.

Brothers and sisters, I encourage you to look out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles to other people’s faith. They are against the true teaching you learned, so stay away from them. Such people are not serving our Lord Christ but are only doing what pleases themselves. They use smooth talk and fine words to deceive the hearts of the naïve.

Romans [16:17]-18

It seems very clear that people who use the Scripture to try and make their own way perfect are hurting other people’s faith. They are driving people away from God and from the hope of salvation. It doesn’t hurt me directly. I am strong. I am capable. I am unyielding in my faith and my divine purpose. But, it hurts people who have not yet found their faith. It hurts people whose faith has not yet been tested and proven and who are young and innocent and that hurts me. As a Christian, as a woman, as a child of God and a follower of Jesus Christ, it hurts every ounce of my soul to see God’s own words to His people being twisted into a stumbling block and causing pain to my brothers and sisters in Christ.

God’s plan for us is as unique and individual as we are and the only way we are going to find God’s plan for us is to seek His face. We cannot follow the path of others because that is not our path. The only one we should be following is Jesus.

-Sandy

003 The Problem with Proverbs 31 – Part 3

The Problem with Proverbs 31…Part 3

New Testament Examples:

  • Mary (Sister of Martha) (Luke 10: 38-42): She chose Jesus and recognized it is more important than all the other distractions of life

  • Anna (Luke [2:36]-38): She announced the coming of the Savior – A prophetess in the temple where Mary and Joseph brought Jesus. She was chosen to announce the arrival of the Savior and she told everyone who came to Jerusalem about Him.

  • The Damsel and the Maid (Mark [14:66]-72): They were important to Jesus – Peter’s denial of Christ, which was prophesied by Jesus himself. The first 2 denials were to women (probably young unmarried women whose word would not have even been accepted as testimony in a court of law)

  • Pontius Pilate’s wife (Matthew [27:15]-25): Her husband listened to her – She suffered in dreams because of Jesus’ innocence and told her husband not to have anything to do with him. This is when Pilate washes his hands of Jesus’ sentencing.

  • Women at the empty tomb (John 20:1-18): They believed – First to see the Resurrected Jesus; first to touch him; first to hear his voice. Again women whose word meant nothing by the law of the time were chosen to be the first witness to the Resurrected Christ.

  • Rhoda (Acts [12:12]-16): She was the first to recognize Paul when God released him from prison. Even years after Jesus’ ascension to Heaven women were still the first witness to miraculous events. (This time the men didn’t believe her and they left Paul knocking at the gate while she tried to convince them it was really him).

  • Lois and Eunice-Timothy’s mother and grandmother (2 Timothy 1:5-7): They were the Spiritual leaders of their home – Paul mentions the women by name and that Timothy’s faith started in them. Even though his father and grandfather were Greek

  • The care of widows (Acts 6:1-6): Women being mistreated and overlooked is the impetus for appointing the first deacons. This mistreatment of women in the church proved serious enough to warrant the ordination of seven men to prevent it—including Stephen.

  • The letters of Paul (Romans 16:1-16; Colossians [4:15]; 2 Timothy [4:19]; 1 Corinthians [16:10]): Of Paul’s four greetings that include specific names, a woman’s name is listed first in three of them.

Conclusion:

 

The Proverbs 31 Housewife is just one example of the many ways that God calls women to serve in His Kingdom.

We are all different with unique gifts, abilities and callings. Are some of us given the same abilities and resources as the Proverbs 31 wife? Yes. Does that make the gifts and abilities given to any of the rest of us less important? NO!!

We are mothers and daughters and sisters, yes, but we are more than that. We are children of God, redeemed by Christ, and God sees us as an individual, not a partner, a caregiver or a “helpmeet”, but as a child of His. 

We are an important part of God’s ministry, of His message and of His plan. And His plan for us does not begin or end with marriage or motherhood. It starts in the beginning and continues until our last breath.

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Share your gift

This morning I am thankful for women who are brave enough to use their gifts and talents from God. I can’t imagine life without the beauty of music. Step out boldly and show God to the world.

-Sandy

002 The Problem with Proverbs 31 – Part 2

The Problem with Proverbs 31…Part 2

Where should we look for examples of how to be a Godly woman/wife/mother?

    (Spoiler alert – the WHOLE Bible)

 

Old Testament ladies:

  • Eve (Genesis Chapter 3): Chosen to bear life – she was the mother of all life but also responsible for the fall (Very interesting that God chose her to bring forth life knowing that she would break his command and that woman would be required for the saving of man later)

  • Ruth (Ruth Chapter 3): The Hebrew phrase that’s translated “excellent wife” (NASB), “wife of noble character” (NIV), or “virtuous woman” (KJV) in Proverbs [31:10] occurs just one other time in Scripture outside of the book of Proverbs. It’s used to describe Ruth who was a widow with no children and no money and no business and no fancy meals or clothes; She was bold: She also essentially proposed to Boaz coming to him at the night and telling him he needed to follow the law and marry her.

  • Miriam (Exodus 2:1-8): She was brave – she watched Moses in the river; approached the Pharaoh’s daughter; brought her own mother to nurse the baby

  • Daughters of Zelophehad (Numbers 27:1-11): The were important to God – received their fathers inheritance of land in the Promised Land; Moses brought their cause before the Lord

  • Deborah (Judges Chapter 4): She was a leader – Judge and prophetess She instructed the men to go to war with the Canaanites, she went with them into battle, but warned that if she went then the war would be won by a woman, specifically Jael (with a tent spike to the head)

  • Rebekah (Genesis Chapter 24): She faithfully followed Gods will – she was chosen for Isaac’s wife after pouring water for a strangers camels; she was given the choice to leave immediately or wait the traditional amount of time and she chose to go in faith

  • Esther (Esther Chapter 4-7): She sacrificed everything – she was an orphan raised by her uncle, she was given to be a concubine of the King and when chosen by the King for his wife she risked her life twice by telling him she was Jewish and asking him to spare her people

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Stand firm.

My husband had a conversation this week with a long time friend. He has been in various pastoral roles and is someone we respect and trust. After catching up a little they began to talk about our show. I always find it interesting to hear men’s perspectives on our show. I have been pleasantly surprised to find that they agree with our thoughts and are even shocked that there are churches who are so dismissive of the importance of women and oppressive towards women. I have obviously done well to surround myself with real men of God and I am very blessed by those relationships.

But before they said their goodbyes he made sure to leave us with some wise words and I wanted to share them here. Both for your consideration and as a reminder for us later down the road. He said Be Prepared because when you speak the truth they will come after you. It is something I had given a considerable amount of thought to before starting on this journey but it is always affirming to hear it from someone who is hundreds of miles away with no knowledge of what you have been planning for the last year. That affirmation is also a bit terrifying.

As we go further into the word of God and work to strip away the bias and prejudice that has been added towards women and other groups over the years we expect to receive hate and anger and we expect people to try and dismiss us using the same lies that have been used to pollute the Bible for hundreds of years.

In 1 Corinthians [15:58] Paul writes, “Brothers and sisters, stand firm. Do not let anything move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your work in the Lord is never wasted.” Notice that he says, brothers and sisters. That is not a mistake he was speaking to the church, meaning the people, the first Christians. Men and women of God, Stand firm.

My prayer for us and for you is that even when people try to push in a different direction, silence us,  and dismiss us, that we will Stand Firm in the work of the Lord.

-Sandy

What’s your Unofficial Love Language?

“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. ”
John [13:34]

An oft-quoted verse, but how do we live it out? How is it practically applied? One of the best resources I’ve found on this for day-to-day life in my family is The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman. If you haven’t heard of them, the basic idea is that people receive love in different ways – Quality Time, Words of Affirmation, Acts of Service, Gifts, and Touch. Jesus clearly showed all these kinds of love to various peoples throughout his ministry, and knowing what speaks love to your close friends and family is an invaluable tool.

But what about the “Unofficial” love languages? The more individualized tiny bits of things that mean so much to someone’s specific heart. My husband, John, often jokes that his Love Language is Memes, while I frequently state that mine is coffee. Indeed, if he’s having a bad day, a well placed meme can make him feel better, and the effort of sending him one makes him feel loved.

This morning I realized that in my new house, I was out of coffee. Apparently the second pot yesterday was only a good idea at the time. After a moment of panic, I remembered that two of my dear friends from Florida had given me a bag of fancy whole bean coffee – and a Slytherin mug – as a going away gift.

After a few boxes I found the coffee and mug, and had a very nice morning indeed. I felt loved, I felt thought of. At the end of a quite difficult week both emotionally and logistically, my friends love reached me even though they were hundreds or thousands of miles away. It’s not five loaves and two fish, but the sentiment behind it is much the same.

What’s your unofficial love language? What things make you just feel in your soul “Oh hey, they really do love me” ? Let us know!

-Elisabeth